Жүжигчин Жейкоб Трэмблей болон Аннабелл Уоллис нар Netflix-ийн шинэ бүтээл болох Unabomber киноны дүрүүд болон түүхэн үйл явдлын талаар ярилцлаа.
Netflix-д цацагдаж эхлээд буй Unabomber кино нь Харвардын их сургуулийн оюутан байсан Тед Качинскийн амьдрал хэрхэн өөрчлөгдөж, гэмт хэрэгтэн болсон түүхийг өгүүлдэг. Киноны гол дүр болох Тед Качинскийн дүрийг Жейкоб Трэмблей бүтээсэн бол профессор Хенри Мюррейн дүрд Рассел Кроу, Холбооны мөрдөх товчооны тусгай ажилтан Жоан Миллерийн дүрд Шейлин Вудли нар тогложээ. Түүхэн үйл явдлаас сэдэвлэсэн уг кинонд профессор Мюррейн удирдсан сэтгэл зүйн маргаантай туршилт Качинскийн амьдралд хэрхэн нөлөөлсөн болон амбиц, ганцаардлын хор уршгийг харуулдаг.
Жүжигчин Жейкоб Трэмблейн хэлснээр, дүр бүтээхдээ түүний бага нас болон хүнлэг талыг ялгаж харуулахыг зорьсон байна. Тэрээр Рассел Кроутай хамтран тоглосон хурцадмал мөргөлдөөнтэй хэсгийн зураг авалт нь жүжигчний хувьд сорилт байсан ч эцсийн үр дүнд сэтгэл хангалуун байгаагаа илэрхийлжээ. Киноны зураг авалтын үеэр жүжигчид тухайн хэсгийг таслалгүйгээр бүтнээр нь авсан нь жүжиглэлтийн эрчмийг илүү тодотгож өгсөн байна.
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Unabomber stars Jacob Tremblay and Annabelle Wallis spoke with ComingSoon’s Tyler Treese about the new Netflix movie. The duo discussed their characters and the film’s moral questions. Unabomber is now streaming on Netflix.
“Inspired by true events, Unabomber follows Ted Kaczynski’s (Jacob Tremblay) transformation from 16-year-old Harvard prodigy into the infamous Unabomber. Subjected to controversial psychological experiments by Professor Henry Murray (Russell Crowe), Kaczynski’s troubled past resurfaces decades later when his manhunt, led by FBI agent Joanne Miller (Shailene Woodley), brings to light the chilling consequences of ambition and isolation,” says the official synopsis.
Tyler Treese: Jacob, you aren’t playing the Unabomber that most people know. You’re a younger Ted Kaczynski that is being put through this really psychotic CIA experiment. How is it finding the humanity and kind of highlighting the insecurities and trauma of someone that we know as this murderer? Because you have to find a nuance in a person that we typically just view very one-sidedly.
Jacob Tremblay: Yeah. I mean, it’s pretty easy to find the humanity just because he was so young. And I think most people watching the film will realize that it’s really easy to separate the child from the man that he turned into.
And then, yeah, I mean, obviously over the course of the film, we introduce Ted. He’s smart. He’s sensible. He’s a really ambitious kid. But then as the film goes on and the people who we trust betray him and he goes through this trauma, like you said, you can kind of see it on him that he looks darker. His clothes are disheveled. He’s got dark circles under his eyes. So, yeah.
Annabelle, we see this a lot in history with scientists where their desire to learn more about humanity leads to human rights violations and overstepping of boundaries. How is it approaching that moral element of Christiana? She’s a psychoanalyst. I assume she cares about these kids to a certain degree, but she also wants to take part in this experiment and push them to the edge. So how is it exploring that mental side of it?
Annabelle Wallis: I found it so interesting because I thought it was very honest. You know, I think she was so clearly motivated by an academic ego, perhaps this deep desire, deep wound of having never been valued in her field like her peers who were men were.
And I do think that when you’ve lived like that for so long, you can forget the morality of some of your academic choices, and your desire to be seen for the academic that you are, it overrides that. So I loved playing a character that had that kind of moral conflict, that she was on the knife’s edge constantly. And she kind of skews more to the bad side of it, which I also find super interesting.
Jacob, you go head-to-head with Russell Crowe in what is the film’s most intense scene. You meet him right there. He’s such a [unclear] screen presence, and it was just thrilling to see your growth as an actor over time, to see you go right at him. How was it filming those intense debates with Russell? Because you guys are going right at it.
Jacob Tremblay: Yeah, I mean, it was amazing. I remember that the whole scene, because it kind of cuts back and forth between our debate and that really intense scene and then the FBI hunting, finally finding Ted.
But yeah, it was great because I remember there was a moment with Russell where he decided, because originally we were going to film those two bits separately because it kind of cuts back and forth. But with the experience that he has in the industry, he was like, “Well, it makes more sense to just film this continuous scene all the way through rather than cutting it up.”
And the only concern then was if I had memorized the lines and prepared for that, which luckily I had. And I just remember a moment with him where he was explaining to me, like, “Yeah, so we’re going to do it all the way through. I know you might not have it memorized as much, but it’s okay. We’re going to get through it.”
And I had a really proud moment. I was just like, I was able to be like, “Yeah, no, I’m good. I have it memorized. I have it down.”
And then, yeah, we cracked on with the scene, and it was amazing. Super intense, but it was really enjoyable and really satisfying by the end of the day. I’m really happy with the work we did together. Yeah.
Annabelle, it’s impossible to know exactly what these experiments did and the impact they had on people, but they were certainly traumatic. What interested you in learning about this side of history?
Annabelle Wallis: Just that the parallels to our modern history were frighteningly close. More and more, we live in an age of isolation. More and more people feel disenfranchised and separate from society and separate from their fellow man. And I could see these parallels there that I found so interesting.
And just dealing with, understanding these institutions of power that are meant to protect and serve the people actually doing harm to the people. And, yeah, how much that mirrors this age and this time in our history as well. So, yeah, very fascinating.
Thanks to Annabelle Wallis and Jacob Tremblay for taking the time to talk about Unabomber.
